You are right when u say that main objective is the unity of madhesis.
And also, we should keep in mind that the quotas and etc are the tools
devised to 'distinguish' (and thus create a wall) one from the other.
Therefore, quota to some group of madhesis would certainly succeed in
creating rifts in the society. And such untimely demands of OBCs are
no doubt the efforts by such elements who would not buy the idea of a
strong madhes.
And I think, the views about special rights (like positive
discrimination by virtue of economic condition) should come only after
equal rights is acknowledged. The first step is to bring the total
marginalized madhesis to even ground. After that, we create provisions
for positive discrimination. Otherwise, if we loose our patience and
start talking about quotas for certain groups within madhes (even
based on economic condition), it will affect adversely to whatever
spirit left over present in madhes.
Remember, that Arjun only looked at one target/objective while aiming
for the fish eye...
Best regards,
Bal Krishna
On 11/24/08, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Balkrishna ji
>
> Thanks for your view.
> Our main objective is not to divide the Madhesi within Madhesi with Caste or
> religion. This will create more problem with in Madhesi in future.
> To find out the economic condition of family is not the tough job.
> If their is right intention to do any work then obviously the result would
> be achieved.
> You have already given some of good scientific methods of Accurate Census
> and SSN.
> Only poor people should be benefitted with reservation.
>
> Thanks
> Ajay Yadav
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Balkrishna <balkrishnajha@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Ajay ji,
>>
>> Its time we accept the bare facts of the country and then try to work out
>> progressively on that base. Nobody is going to conduct a census to
>> ascertain
>> the economic condition of people, and especially for the madhesis, nobody
>> is
>> interested. I am talking about carrying the cencus, because of the claims
>> from various academicians time and again, who say that the census is
>> biased
>> against madhesis. There has been effort to 'suppress' the number of
>> madhesis. Do you think that those person who like to suppress the number
>> of
>> madhesis, would 'allow' them to enjoy quota benefit for being poor? They
>> have time and again said that the people in hills are very poor
>> comparatively. Even in the World Bank report titled 'Unequal Citizens',
>> they
>> have said that the madhesi brahmins are second most economically well
>> group
>> in Nepal. They have distorted the fact by combining the marwadis in the
>> group of madhesi brahmins, and the figure inflated. And not to wonder, the
>> team of the report preparers were non-madhesis....
>>
>> So, who do you think will go in every house in madhes, if the data
>> collectors are mostly the pahade...?
>>
>> The political parties like TMDP, NSP are raising their voices for the
>> fresh
>> census before the new constitution is formed. We should support it. And
>> also, a third/neutral party survey.
>>
>> Therefore, in a country, where even the basic data like census is not
>> fair,
>> we should not expect that we have a true data on family income. Moreover,
>> how to calculate income and wealth is another issue. How can we ascertain
>> the income of a farmer in a remote village... i mean do they have any
>> proof?
>>
>> Therefore, if you focus on scientific methods of progress, we should
>> ascertain the availability of 2 data:
>> 1. Accurate Census
>> 2. Social Security number to track every citizen.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Bal Krishna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition
>>>
>>>
>>> Friends we have seen the lots of changes in our country in the short
>>> span of time. There was the time when Nepal seems to have its own
>>> unique culture tradition and peaceful country in the world. We all
>>> used to be proud of our culture, traditional and peacefulness in the
>>> country. We used to hear that in neighboring country like India,
>>> china, Bangladesh, Pakistan has lot of conflict and war within
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> But in the short span of time by 2001 A.D; Nepal has been in the
>>> dalmatic situation where the entire problem starts side by side by
>>> giving one after another dirty politics game for opportunistic
>>> politicians. In realistic none of the politician wants to see the
>>> country to have the good future and work for welfare of society.
>>>
>>> Now the Other Backward Caste (OBC) topic seems to have great interest
>>> for the politician in our country. OBC is another strategy for the
>>> politician to make the division within the society. This type of
>>> division gives the politician again another chance to play the Vote
>>> Bank Politics in our society. They want to divide the society in
>>> different sects by caste, religion and again rule the society. They
>>> are creating Issue within society to have name and fame.
>>>
>>>
>>> In today society I, you and we cannot say that all the OBC are
>>> backward in terms of wealth and all the Brahmins of society are good
>>> in wealth. This equation cannot be well formulated and proved since we
>>> all know that god has given variation within own sibling also. There
>>> is variation within the same caste and within the same family in terms
>>> of wealth, knowledge etc.
>>> As the Citizen responsibility and to have good future of Country I
>>> would support if the Reservation would be given in terms of Family
>>> Economic Conditions not in terms of Caste and religion. There should
>>> be reservation based on the Family Annual income or certain
>>> benchmarking criteria should be formulated which would give the equal
>>> opportunity for all the Nepalese. Government should make the database
>>> of people and give certain scholarship program only to those students
>>> whose family economic condition is poor. The objective is to have the
>>> growth of society irrespective of Caste. I have seen some of really
>>> good economic family children studying in the scholarship program only
>>> because of Caste tag benefit. Society won't see any change if only
>>> those people get chance of everything that really have self capacity
>>> to do. To have change in society we need to give chance to that person
>>> who really needs help.
>>> Logic and Intention does not always go side by side. Most of OBC
>>> people have less wealth but not all the OBC. Finally if you see in the
>>> crystal clear you will see only that portion of OBC gets benefit that
>>> has capacity to do something by self also. If reservation is
>>> implemented by Caste then it is impossible to eliminate in future
>>> since this will become trend in the society and many politician would
>>> be taking their base point as reservation with respect to Caste. One
>>> problem will create lots of problem in future and finally only the
>>> opportunistic people would get benefit by Caste reservation. If
>>> reservation is implemented by Economic Condition of Family then it is
>>> easier to modify the reservation criteria after certain span of time
>>> if the family economic condition becomes better and thus this will
>>> support the upliftment of society.
>>> Nepal is a secular country. Now is the time not to judge the person
>>> by Caste and one should not get benefit by Caste Tag. We should teach
>>> each other about Humanity. All the human being needs common basic
>>> things in life to live happy. We are the social animal and we live in
>>> society. We should abolish Caste system in our society since this is
>>> cancer of our society. Friend I urge everyone to act in this with
>>> full force to abolish the caste system in society and to implement the
>>> reservation based on Family Economic Condition.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Ajay Kumar Yadav
>>> ajay.aimsa@gmail.com
>>> External Affairs & Spokesperson
>>> AIMSA, Bangalore – India
>>>
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