[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Hi All

Dear Narendra,
             A very very warm welcome to you in AIMSA family. Plz keep in touch through this group, .

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sujit Thakur <sujit.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Narendra Jhaji,

It is our pleasure to have your mail. Thanks a lot for being with us. We are looking forward  to  having more interaction with you .

We are  planning to come to Chennai in near future , I will be very happy if you could manage to meet with us. 

We have Shree Narayan Jhaji in Chennai, I guess you might be in touch with him.

 I have your number with me and I will give you call sometimes next week to hear more from you !!!

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Narendra Jha <narendrj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
  This is Narendra Jha from  Jaleshwar, Mahottari. I am not new to
AIMSA but this is my first interaction with you all.
Let me give a brief introduction of myself.....

I am from Jaleshwar.
Did my all schooling(from class 1 to class 12) from Jaleshwar and
JanakpurDham.
In 2003 got scholarship from Indian Embassy to persue Engineering from
India and since 2003 I have been in India(currently I am in chennai
working in an MNC). I have been AIMSA member since 2005(exact date I
dont remember :-)).
One thing want to tell you, you all are really doing great work in
bringing all we Nepalese Teraiyens under one umbrella. This is
definitely going to be very helpful to all in a long run.
My work pressure wont allow me to participate actively in AIMSA but if
there is any event going on in Chennai or any other place near to
chennai do let me know, I will try my best.

Special thanks goes to Mr. Surendra Madhesi. He is really passionate
about bringing revolution in Madhesh I appriciate it and also want to
be a part of his great mission.

My contact info.

email:: narendrj@gmail.com
phone:: 9962078878

Regards
Narendra

--
Thanks and Regards,

Sujit Kumar Thakur
Spokesperson &  General Secretary
All India Madhesi Students' Association
(AIMSA)
http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
http://sujitnepal.blogspot.com
Bangalore
+919886599611

--
Regards
Md Nouman Siddiqui
"HAR DIL AZIZ SAF DIL NOUMAN"

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Hi All

Dear Narendra Jhaji,

It is our pleasure to have your mail. Thanks a lot for being with us. We are looking forward  to  having more interaction with you .

We are  planning to come to Chennai in near future , I will be very happy if you could manage to meet with us. 

We have Shree Narayan Jhaji in Chennai, I guess you might be in touch with him.

 I have your number with me and I will give you call sometimes next week to hear more from you !!!

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Narendra Jha <narendrj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
  This is Narendra Jha from  Jaleshwar, Mahottari. I am not new to
AIMSA but this is my first interaction with you all.
Let me give a brief introduction of myself.....

I am from Jaleshwar.
Did my all schooling(from class 1 to class 12) from Jaleshwar and
JanakpurDham.
In 2003 got scholarship from Indian Embassy to persue Engineering from
India and since 2003 I have been in India(currently I am in chennai
working in an MNC). I have been AIMSA member since 2005(exact date I
dont remember :-)).
One thing want to tell you, you all are really doing great work in
bringing all we Nepalese Teraiyens under one umbrella. This is
definitely going to be very helpful to all in a long run.
My work pressure wont allow me to participate actively in AIMSA but if
there is any event going on in Chennai or any other place near to
chennai do let me know, I will try my best.

Special thanks goes to Mr. Surendra Madhesi. He is really passionate
about bringing revolution in Madhesh I appriciate it and also want to
be a part of his great mission.

My contact info.

email:: narendrj@gmail.com
phone:: 9962078878

Regards
Narendra

--
Thanks and Regards,

Sujit Kumar Thakur
Spokesperson &  General Secretary
All India Madhesi Students' Association
(AIMSA)
http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
http://sujitnepal.blogspot.com
Bangalore
+919886599611

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Hi All

Thank You Sudhir Ji,

                              I would like to give my full support and contribution to this mission(provided given a chance ).

Regards 

Narendra

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Sudhir Yadav <sudhiraimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Narendra Ji,
Thanks for Joining AIMSA.
Sure we will inform you about AIMSA activities.

2008/11/30 Narendra Jha <narendrj@gmail.com>

Hey Guys,

--
Sudhir Yadav
Vice President of AIMSA
Dehradun, India
Mobile No. :- +91-9319009020
Please Visit http://www.aimsanepal.org
                  http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Please Contact Me

Dear Friends,
I am Sudhir here nowadays i am in Kathmandu i will be here for more
than three month so if anyone wants to contact me than please call me
at 9841549596.

Thanks
Sudhir Yadav
Vice-President of AIMSA
00977-9841549596
sudhir_yadav555@yahoo.co.in
sudhiraimsa@gmail.com

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Hi All

Hi Narendra Ji,
Thanks for Joining AIMSA.
Sure we will inform you about AIMSA activities.

2008/11/30 Narendra Jha <narendrj@gmail.com>

Hey Guys,

--
Sudhir Yadav
Vice President of AIMSA
Dehradun, India
Mobile No. :- +91-9319009020
Please Visit http://www.aimsanepal.org
                  http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com

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http://groups.google.co.in/group/aimsaformadhesi
AIMSA Blog Url- http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
or visit http://www.aimsanepal.org
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Hi All

Hi,
This is Narendra Jha from Jaleshwar, Mahottari. I am not new to
AIMSA but this is my first interaction with you all.
Let me give a brief introduction of myself.....

I am from Jaleshwar.
Did my all schooling(from class 1 to class 12) from Jaleshwar and
JanakpurDham.
In 2003 got scholarship from Indian Embassy to persue Engineering from
India and since 2003 I have been in India(currently I am in chennai
working in an MNC). I have been AIMSA member since 2005(exact date I
dont remember :-)).
One thing want to tell you, you all are really doing great work in
bringing all we Nepalese Teraiyens under one umbrella. This is
definitely going to be very helpful to all in a long run.
My work pressure wont allow me to participate actively in AIMSA but if
there is any event going on in Chennai or any other place near to
chennai do let me know, I will try my best.

Special thanks goes to Mr. Surendra Madhesi. He is really passionate
about bringing revolution in Madhesh I appriciate it and also want to
be a part of his great mission.

My contact info.

email:: narendrj@gmail.com
phone:: 9962078878

Regards
Narendra

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For more options, visit AIMSA group at
http://groups.google.co.in/group/aimsaformadhesi
AIMSA Blog Url- http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
or visit http://www.aimsanepal.org
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Hi All

Hey Guys,

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http://groups.google.co.in/group/aimsaformadhesi
AIMSA Blog Url- http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
or visit http://www.aimsanepal.org
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] hi all

Dear Members,
                3rd of December i will go to Nepal and i will reach on 6th December,  if any of our members would like to talk to me then please contact me on this no
033-520476

--
Regards
Md Nouman Siddiqui
"HAR DIL AZIZ SAF DIL NOUMAN"

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http://groups.google.co.in/group/aimsaformadhesi
AIMSA Blog Url- http://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
or visit http://www.aimsanepal.org
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Attachments Fifth Maithili Daily from Janakpur, MITHILA_DOT_COM

मिथिला डट कम MITHILA_DOT_COM, MAITHILI DAILY, the second one today and only the Fifth one after DAINIK SWADESH (from Darbhanga), MITHILA MIHIR(from Patna), SEEMANCHAL (from Janakpur, Nepal-Editor Upendra Bhagat Nagvanshi)and Mithila Samad from KOLKATA) has been launched fron JANAKPUR.
Editor Mithila Dot Com Sujit Kumar Jha

(snapshot attached)


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GAJENDRA THAKUR

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition

Dear Lokendraji,
It is my pleasure to hear from you .... I hope you are enjoying your vacation... Kindly keep us posted about recent activities and progress in Nepal and Janakpur..
Have you talked to Vijayji??? Please  communicate with him and please  try to publicize AIMSA's goals and objectives to the people you meet..
We are eagerly waiting for your next updates.



Dear All,

I gives me a great pleasure to share with you all that Lokendraji will soon be handling a new responsibility  in view of the decision taken by 11th CWC meeting of AIMSA. I will share the details of the decisions taken in my next postings.

Lokendraji,
I am sure you are aware of the trust vested in you by the CWC and I am extremely confident of you taking AIMSA to a newer height in your new role.

Thanks and Regards,

Sujit

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:11 PM, lokendra yadav <lokendra.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends!

 

It's my pleasure to inform you that I, Lokendra Yadav, am  at Janakpur now a days and will be here for a few  days.

 

Friends, I would like to inform you a little bit of Janakpur.

As I notice in a few days, Janakpur is going on with threshold satisfactory state of  peace, calmness and staticness, as it is since after constitution assembly poll.

To the extent of your curiosity, I feel privileged to inform you that Janakpur is historically religious and good governed ideal state in regime of the great king Janak. Its my pride to make you know its worldwide prominency due to devotion to true Karmas of Janaki(sita).

The Janaki temple, the living monuments of Ram and Sita, is a holy foundation inspired and economically supported by Brishbhanu kumari of  Timakgadh, a state of India about 110 years ago. Inform you more about Janakpur in next correspondence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanking you,

Lokendra Yadav.

AIMSA

 

On 11/24/08, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Balkrishna ji

 

Thanks for your view.

Our main objective is not to divide the Madhesi within Madhesi with Caste or religion. This will create more problem with in Madhesi in future.
To find out the economic condition of family is not the tough job.

If their is right intention to do any work then obviously the result would be achieved.
You have already given some of good scientific methods of Accurate Census and SSN.

Only poor people should be benefitted with reservation.

 

Thanks

Ajay Yadav

 

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Balkrishna <balkrishnajha@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ajay ji,

Its time we accept the bare facts of the country and then try to work out progressively on that base. Nobody is going to conduct a census to ascertain the economic condition of people, and especially for the madhesis, nobody is interested. I am talking about carrying the cencus, because of the claims from various academicians time and again, who say that the census is biased against madhesis. There has been effort to 'suppress' the number of madhesis. Do you think that those person who like to suppress the number of madhesis, would 'allow' them to enjoy quota benefit for being poor? They have time and again said that the people in hills are very poor comparatively. Even in the World Bank report titled 'Unequal Citizens', they have said that the madhesi brahmins are second most economically well group in Nepal. They have distorted the fact by combining the marwadis in the group of madhesi brahmins, and the figure inflated. And not to wonder, the team of the report preparers were non-madhesis....

So, who do you think will go in every house in madhes, if the data collectors are mostly the pahade...?

The political parties like TMDP, NSP are raising their voices for the fresh census before the new constitution is formed. We should support it. And also, a third/neutral party survey.

Therefore, in a country, where even the basic data like census is not fair, we should not expect that we have a true data on family income. Moreover, how to calculate income and wealth is another issue. How can we ascertain the income of a farmer in a remote village... i mean do they have any proof?

Therefore, if you focus on scientific methods of progress, we should ascertain the availability of 2 data:
1. Accurate Census
2. Social Security number to track every citizen.

Best regards,

Bal Krishna

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition


Friends we have seen the lots of changes in our country in the short
span of time. There was the time when Nepal seems to have its own
unique culture tradition and peaceful country in the world. We all
used to be proud of our culture, traditional and peacefulness in the
country. We used to hear that in neighboring country like India,
china, Bangladesh, Pakistan has lot of conflict and war within
themselves.

But in the short span of time by 2001 A.D; Nepal has been in the
dalmatic situation where the entire problem starts side by side by
giving one after another dirty politics game for opportunistic
politicians. In realistic none of the politician wants to see the
country to have the good future and work for welfare of society.

Now the Other Backward Caste (OBC) topic seems to have great interest
for the politician in our country. OBC is another strategy for the
politician to make the division within the society. This type of
division gives the politician again another chance to play the Vote
Bank Politics in our society. They want to divide the society in
different sects by caste, religion and again rule the society. They
are creating Issue within society to have name and fame.


In today society I, you and we cannot say that all the OBC are
backward in terms of wealth and all the Brahmins of society are good
in wealth. This equation cannot be well formulated and proved since we
all know that god has given variation within own sibling also. There
is variation within the same caste and within the same family in terms
of wealth, knowledge etc.
As the Citizen responsibility and to have good future of Country I
would support if the Reservation would be given in terms of Family
Economic Conditions not in terms of Caste and religion. There should
be reservation based on the Family Annual income or certain
benchmarking criteria should be formulated which would give the equal
opportunity for all the Nepalese. Government should make the database
of people and give certain scholarship program only to those students
whose family economic condition is poor. The objective is to have the
growth of society irrespective of Caste. I have seen some of really
good economic family children studying in the scholarship program only
because of Caste tag benefit. Society won't see any change if only
those people get chance of everything that really have self capacity
to do. To have change in society we need to give chance to that person
who really needs help.
Logic and Intention does not always go side by side. Most of OBC
people have less wealth but not all the OBC. Finally if you see in the
crystal clear you will see only that portion of OBC gets benefit that
has capacity to do something by self also. If reservation is
implemented by Caste then it is impossible to eliminate in future
since this will become trend in the society and many politician would
be taking their base point as reservation with respect to Caste. One
problem will create lots of problem in future and finally only the
opportunistic people would get benefit by Caste reservation. If
reservation is implemented by Economic Condition of Family then it is
easier to modify the reservation criteria after certain span of time
if the family economic condition becomes better and thus this will
support the upliftment of society.
 Nepal is a secular country. Now is the time not to judge the person
by Caste and one should not get benefit by Caste Tag. We should teach
each other about Humanity. All the human being needs common basic
things in life to live happy. We are the social animal and we live in
society. We should abolish Caste system in our society since this is
cancer of our society.  Friend I urge everyone to act in this with
full force to abolish the caste system in society and to implement the
reservation based on Family Economic Condition.


Thanks and Regards
Ajay Kumar Yadav
ajay.aimsa@gmail.com
External Affairs & Spokesperson
AIMSA, Bangalore – India

AIMSA  web address URL https://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
http://www.aimsaindia.blogspot.com
Offical Website: www.aimsanepal.org
Email Id: aimsaindia@gmail.com

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Dear friends!

 

It's my pleasure to inform you that I, Lokendra Yadav, am  at Janakpur now a days and will be here for a few  days.

 

Friends, I would like to inform you a little bit of Janakpur.

As I notice in a few days, Janakpur is going on with threshold satisfactory state of  peace, calmness and staticness, as it is since after constitution assembly poll.

To the extent of your curiosity, I feel privileged to inform you that Janakpur is historically religious and good governed ideal state in regime of the great king Janak. Its my pride to make you know its worldwide prominency due to devotion to true Karmas of Janaki(sita).

The Janaki temple, the living monuments of Ram and Sita, is a holy foundation inspired and economically supported by Brishbhanu kumari of  Timakgadh, a state of India about 110 years ago. Inform you more about Janakpur in next correspondence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanking you,

Lokendra Yadav.

AIMSA

 

On 11/24/08, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Balkrishna ji

 

Thanks for your view.

Our main objective is not to divide the Madhesi within Madhesi with Caste or religion. This will create more problem with in Madhesi in future.
To find out the economic condition of family is not the tough job.

If their is right intention to do any work then obviously the result would be achieved.
You have already given some of good scientific methods of Accurate Census and SSN.

Only poor people should be benefitted with reservation.

 

Thanks

Ajay Yadav

 

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Balkrishna <balkrishnajha@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ajay ji,

Its time we accept the bare facts of the country and then try to work out progressively on that base. Nobody is going to conduct a census to ascertain the economic condition of people, and especially for the madhesis, nobody is interested. I am talking about carrying the cencus, because of the claims from various academicians time and again, who say that the census is biased against madhesis. There has been effort to 'suppress' the number of madhesis. Do you think that those person who like to suppress the number of madhesis, would 'allow' them to enjoy quota benefit for being poor? They have time and again said that the people in hills are very poor comparatively. Even in the World Bank report titled 'Unequal Citizens', they have said that the madhesi brahmins are second most economically well group in Nepal. They have distorted the fact by combining the marwadis in the group of madhesi brahmins, and the figure inflated. And not to wonder, the team of the report preparers were non-madhesis....

So, who do you think will go in every house in madhes, if the data collectors are mostly the pahade...?

The political parties like TMDP, NSP are raising their voices for the fresh census before the new constitution is formed. We should support it. And also, a third/neutral party survey.

Therefore, in a country, where even the basic data like census is not fair, we should not expect that we have a true data on family income. Moreover, how to calculate income and wealth is another issue. How can we ascertain the income of a farmer in a remote village... i mean do they have any proof?

Therefore, if you focus on scientific methods of progress, we should ascertain the availability of 2 data:
1. Accurate Census
2. Social Security number to track every citizen.

Best regards,

Bal Krishna

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition


Friends we have seen the lots of changes in our country in the short
span of time. There was the time when Nepal seems to have its own
unique culture tradition and peaceful country in the world. We all
used to be proud of our culture, traditional and peacefulness in the
country. We used to hear that in neighboring country like India,
china, Bangladesh, Pakistan has lot of conflict and war within
themselves.

But in the short span of time by 2001 A.D; Nepal has been in the
dalmatic situation where the entire problem starts side by side by
giving one after another dirty politics game for opportunistic
politicians. In realistic none of the politician wants to see the
country to have the good future and work for welfare of society.

Now the Other Backward Caste (OBC) topic seems to have great interest
for the politician in our country. OBC is another strategy for the
politician to make the division within the society. This type of
division gives the politician again another chance to play the Vote
Bank Politics in our society. They want to divide the society in
different sects by caste, religion and again rule the society. They
are creating Issue within society to have name and fame.


In today society I, you and we cannot say that all the OBC are
backward in terms of wealth and all the Brahmins of society are good
in wealth. This equation cannot be well formulated and proved since we
all know that god has given variation within own sibling also. There
is variation within the same caste and within the same family in terms
of wealth, knowledge etc.
As the Citizen responsibility and to have good future of Country I
would support if the Reservation would be given in terms of Family
Economic Conditions not in terms of Caste and religion. There should
be reservation based on the Family Annual income or certain
benchmarking criteria should be formulated which would give the equal
opportunity for all the Nepalese. Government should make the database
of people and give certain scholarship program only to those students
whose family economic condition is poor. The objective is to have the
growth of society irrespective of Caste. I have seen some of really
good economic family children studying in the scholarship program only
because of Caste tag benefit. Society won't see any change if only
those people get chance of everything that really have self capacity
to do. To have change in society we need to give chance to that person
who really needs help.
Logic and Intention does not always go side by side. Most of OBC
people have less wealth but not all the OBC. Finally if you see in the
crystal clear you will see only that portion of OBC gets benefit that
has capacity to do something by self also. If reservation is
implemented by Caste then it is impossible to eliminate in future
since this will become trend in the society and many politician would
be taking their base point as reservation with respect to Caste. One
problem will create lots of problem in future and finally only the
opportunistic people would get benefit by Caste reservation. If
reservation is implemented by Economic Condition of Family then it is
easier to modify the reservation criteria after certain span of time
if the family economic condition becomes better and thus this will
support the upliftment of society.
 Nepal is a secular country. Now is the time not to judge the person
by Caste and one should not get benefit by Caste Tag. We should teach
each other about Humanity. All the human being needs common basic
things in life to live happy. We are the social animal and we live in
society. We should abolish Caste system in our society since this is
cancer of our society.  Friend I urge everyone to act in this with
full force to abolish the caste system in society and to implement the
reservation based on Family Economic Condition.


Thanks and Regards
Ajay Kumar Yadav
ajay.aimsa@gmail.com
External Affairs & Spokesperson
AIMSA, Bangalore – India

AIMSA  web address URL https://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
http://www.aimsaindia.blogspot.com
Offical Website: www.aimsanepal.org
Email Id: aimsaindia@gmail.com

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition

Dear Ajay ji,

You are right when u say that main objective is the unity of madhesis.
And also, we should keep in mind that the quotas and etc are the tools
devised to 'distinguish' (and thus create a wall) one from the other.
Therefore, quota to some group of madhesis would certainly succeed in
creating rifts in the society. And such untimely demands of OBCs are
no doubt the efforts by such elements who would not buy the idea of a
strong madhes.

And I think, the views about special rights (like positive
discrimination by virtue of economic condition) should come only after
equal rights is acknowledged. The first step is to bring the total
marginalized madhesis to even ground. After that, we create provisions
for positive discrimination. Otherwise, if we loose our patience and
start talking about quotas for certain groups within madhes (even
based on economic condition), it will affect adversely to whatever
spirit left over present in madhes.

Remember, that Arjun only looked at one target/objective while aiming
for the fish eye...

Best regards,

Bal Krishna

On 11/24/08, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Balkrishna ji
>
> Thanks for your view.
> Our main objective is not to divide the Madhesi within Madhesi with Caste or
> religion. This will create more problem with in Madhesi in future.
> To find out the economic condition of family is not the tough job.
> If their is right intention to do any work then obviously the result would
> be achieved.
> You have already given some of good scientific methods of Accurate Census
> and SSN.
> Only poor people should be benefitted with reservation.
>
> Thanks
> Ajay Yadav
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Balkrishna <balkrishnajha@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Ajay ji,
>>
>> Its time we accept the bare facts of the country and then try to work out
>> progressively on that base. Nobody is going to conduct a census to
>> ascertain
>> the economic condition of people, and especially for the madhesis, nobody
>> is
>> interested. I am talking about carrying the cencus, because of the claims
>> from various academicians time and again, who say that the census is
>> biased
>> against madhesis. There has been effort to 'suppress' the number of
>> madhesis. Do you think that those person who like to suppress the number
>> of
>> madhesis, would 'allow' them to enjoy quota benefit for being poor? They
>> have time and again said that the people in hills are very poor
>> comparatively. Even in the World Bank report titled 'Unequal Citizens',
>> they
>> have said that the madhesi brahmins are second most economically well
>> group
>> in Nepal. They have distorted the fact by combining the marwadis in the
>> group of madhesi brahmins, and the figure inflated. And not to wonder, the
>> team of the report preparers were non-madhesis....
>>
>> So, who do you think will go in every house in madhes, if the data
>> collectors are mostly the pahade...?
>>
>> The political parties like TMDP, NSP are raising their voices for the
>> fresh
>> census before the new constitution is formed. We should support it. And
>> also, a third/neutral party survey.
>>
>> Therefore, in a country, where even the basic data like census is not
>> fair,
>> we should not expect that we have a true data on family income. Moreover,
>> how to calculate income and wealth is another issue. How can we ascertain
>> the income of a farmer in a remote village... i mean do they have any
>> proof?
>>
>> Therefore, if you focus on scientific methods of progress, we should
>> ascertain the availability of 2 data:
>> 1. Accurate Census
>> 2. Social Security number to track every citizen.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Bal Krishna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition
>>>
>>>
>>> Friends we have seen the lots of changes in our country in the short
>>> span of time. There was the time when Nepal seems to have its own
>>> unique culture tradition and peaceful country in the world. We all
>>> used to be proud of our culture, traditional and peacefulness in the
>>> country. We used to hear that in neighboring country like India,
>>> china, Bangladesh, Pakistan has lot of conflict and war within
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> But in the short span of time by 2001 A.D; Nepal has been in the
>>> dalmatic situation where the entire problem starts side by side by
>>> giving one after another dirty politics game for opportunistic
>>> politicians. In realistic none of the politician wants to see the
>>> country to have the good future and work for welfare of society.
>>>
>>> Now the Other Backward Caste (OBC) topic seems to have great interest
>>> for the politician in our country. OBC is another strategy for the
>>> politician to make the division within the society. This type of
>>> division gives the politician again another chance to play the Vote
>>> Bank Politics in our society. They want to divide the society in
>>> different sects by caste, religion and again rule the society. They
>>> are creating Issue within society to have name and fame.
>>>
>>>
>>> In today society I, you and we cannot say that all the OBC are
>>> backward in terms of wealth and all the Brahmins of society are good
>>> in wealth. This equation cannot be well formulated and proved since we
>>> all know that god has given variation within own sibling also. There
>>> is variation within the same caste and within the same family in terms
>>> of wealth, knowledge etc.
>>> As the Citizen responsibility and to have good future of Country I
>>> would support if the Reservation would be given in terms of Family
>>> Economic Conditions not in terms of Caste and religion. There should
>>> be reservation based on the Family Annual income or certain
>>> benchmarking criteria should be formulated which would give the equal
>>> opportunity for all the Nepalese. Government should make the database
>>> of people and give certain scholarship program only to those students
>>> whose family economic condition is poor. The objective is to have the
>>> growth of society irrespective of Caste. I have seen some of really
>>> good economic family children studying in the scholarship program only
>>> because of Caste tag benefit. Society won't see any change if only
>>> those people get chance of everything that really have self capacity
>>> to do. To have change in society we need to give chance to that person
>>> who really needs help.
>>> Logic and Intention does not always go side by side. Most of OBC
>>> people have less wealth but not all the OBC. Finally if you see in the
>>> crystal clear you will see only that portion of OBC gets benefit that
>>> has capacity to do something by self also. If reservation is
>>> implemented by Caste then it is impossible to eliminate in future
>>> since this will become trend in the society and many politician would
>>> be taking their base point as reservation with respect to Caste. One
>>> problem will create lots of problem in future and finally only the
>>> opportunistic people would get benefit by Caste reservation. If
>>> reservation is implemented by Economic Condition of Family then it is
>>> easier to modify the reservation criteria after certain span of time
>>> if the family economic condition becomes better and thus this will
>>> support the upliftment of society.
>>> Nepal is a secular country. Now is the time not to judge the person
>>> by Caste and one should not get benefit by Caste Tag. We should teach
>>> each other about Humanity. All the human being needs common basic
>>> things in life to live happy. We are the social animal and we live in
>>> society. We should abolish Caste system in our society since this is
>>> cancer of our society. Friend I urge everyone to act in this with
>>> full force to abolish the caste system in society and to implement the
>>> reservation based on Family Economic Condition.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Ajay Kumar Yadav
>>> ajay.aimsa@gmail.com
>>> External Affairs & Spokesperson
>>> AIMSA, Bangalore – India
>>>
>>> AIMSA web address URL https://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
>>> http://www.aimsaindia.blogspot.com
>>> Offical Website: www.aimsanepal.org
>>> Email Id: aimsaindia@gmail.com
>>>
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition

Dear Balkrishna ji

 

Thanks for your view.

Our main objective is not to divide the Madhesi within Madhesi with Caste or religion. This will create more problem with in Madhesi in future.
To find out the economic condition of family is not the tough job.

If their is right intention to do any work then obviously the result would be achieved.
You have already given some of good scientific methods of Accurate Census and SSN.

Only poor people should be benefitted with reservation.

 

Thanks

Ajay Yadav

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Balkrishna <balkrishnajha@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ajay ji,

Its time we accept the bare facts of the country and then try to work out progressively on that base. Nobody is going to conduct a census to ascertain the economic condition of people, and especially for the madhesis, nobody is interested. I am talking about carrying the cencus, because of the claims from various academicians time and again, who say that the census is biased against madhesis. There has been effort to 'suppress' the number of madhesis. Do you think that those person who like to suppress the number of madhesis, would 'allow' them to enjoy quota benefit for being poor? They have time and again said that the people in hills are very poor comparatively. Even in the World Bank report titled 'Unequal Citizens', they have said that the madhesi brahmins are second most economically well group in Nepal. They have distorted the fact by combining the marwadis in the group of madhesi brahmins, and the figure inflated. And not to wonder, the team of the report preparers were non-madhesis....

So, who do you think will go in every house in madhes, if the data collectors are mostly the pahade...?

The political parties like TMDP, NSP are raising their voices for the fresh census before the new constitution is formed. We should support it. And also, a third/neutral party survey.

Therefore, in a country, where even the basic data like census is not fair, we should not expect that we have a true data on family income. Moreover, how to calculate income and wealth is another issue. How can we ascertain the income of a farmer in a remote village... i mean do they have any proof?

Therefore, if you focus on scientific methods of progress, we should ascertain the availability of 2 data:
1. Accurate Census
2. Social Security number to track every citizen.

Best regards,

Bal Krishna

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Nepal: Reservation should be based on the Family Economic Condition


Friends we have seen the lots of changes in our country in the short
span of time. There was the time when Nepal seems to have its own
unique culture tradition and peaceful country in the world. We all
used to be proud of our culture, traditional and peacefulness in the
country. We used to hear that in neighboring country like India,
china, Bangladesh, Pakistan has lot of conflict and war within
themselves.

But in the short span of time by 2001 A.D; Nepal has been in the
dalmatic situation where the entire problem starts side by side by
giving one after another dirty politics game for opportunistic
politicians. In realistic none of the politician wants to see the
country to have the good future and work for welfare of society.

Now the Other Backward Caste (OBC) topic seems to have great interest
for the politician in our country. OBC is another strategy for the
politician to make the division within the society. This type of
division gives the politician again another chance to play the Vote
Bank Politics in our society. They want to divide the society in
different sects by caste, religion and again rule the society. They
are creating Issue within society to have name and fame.


In today society I, you and we cannot say that all the OBC are
backward in terms of wealth and all the Brahmins of society are good
in wealth. This equation cannot be well formulated and proved since we
all know that god has given variation within own sibling also. There
is variation within the same caste and within the same family in terms
of wealth, knowledge etc.
As the Citizen responsibility and to have good future of Country I
would support if the Reservation would be given in terms of Family
Economic Conditions not in terms of Caste and religion. There should
be reservation based on the Family Annual income or certain
benchmarking criteria should be formulated which would give the equal
opportunity for all the Nepalese. Government should make the database
of people and give certain scholarship program only to those students
whose family economic condition is poor. The objective is to have the
growth of society irrespective of Caste. I have seen some of really
good economic family children studying in the scholarship program only
because of Caste tag benefit. Society won't see any change if only
those people get chance of everything that really have self capacity
to do. To have change in society we need to give chance to that person
who really needs help.
Logic and Intention does not always go side by side. Most of OBC
people have less wealth but not all the OBC. Finally if you see in the
crystal clear you will see only that portion of OBC gets benefit that
has capacity to do something by self also. If reservation is
implemented by Caste then it is impossible to eliminate in future
since this will become trend in the society and many politician would
be taking their base point as reservation with respect to Caste. One
problem will create lots of problem in future and finally only the
opportunistic people would get benefit by Caste reservation. If
reservation is implemented by Economic Condition of Family then it is
easier to modify the reservation criteria after certain span of time
if the family economic condition becomes better and thus this will
support the upliftment of society.
 Nepal is a secular country. Now is the time not to judge the person
by Caste and one should not get benefit by Caste Tag. We should teach
each other about Humanity. All the human being needs common basic
things in life to live happy. We are the social animal and we live in
society. We should abolish Caste system in our society since this is
cancer of our society.  Friend I urge everyone to act in this with
full force to abolish the caste system in society and to implement the
reservation based on Family Economic Condition.


Thanks and Regards
Ajay Kumar Yadav
ajay.aimsa@gmail.com
External Affairs & Spokesperson
AIMSA, Bangalore – India

AIMSA  web address URL https://indiamadhesi.wordpress.com
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Nepal: Government should encourage Private University to attract Education Tourism

Dear Ajayji,

You are right to ask the question "Is closing of private school and university shows any positive path for Country"? Before any responsible person gives such an statement like "Private institutions and colleges will be closed", there should be some road map  and planning for the alternatives.

It is a fact that, most of the private institutions in Nepal do exploit students and have become money making elements but closing them doesn't resolve the problem. They can obviously be regulated and managed in a better way. Though there are some disadvantages  because of them , they are helpful to the nation in many ways like they are educating people( Na Hunu Bhanda Kano Mama nai Besh), they have given job opportunities to thousands of people.

If Government seriously want to improve the education system , they can take inspiration from India  where both private and Government institutions have excelled in many ways.

Lets see how things will turn in coming Days.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Nepal: Government should encourage Private University to attract Education Tourism

On 6^th November 2008; Maoist Government Finance Minister Dr. Baburam Bhattarai announced by 2010 all the private school and university should be closed and all of them should be within the Government control. This decision has hurt many intellectual Nepalese and put the question mark on Nepal's former rebel Maoists attitude on the development of country.

 As a responsible citizen; my first question comes "Is closing of private school and university shows any positive path for Country?" According to the Ministry of Education, private schools account for nearly one-third of the country's 41,000 schools. If private institutions are supposed to be closed then what will happen about the quality of education and employment opportunity for teachers and staff. There has been no alternative solution given by Maoist government till now for employment opportunity to teachers and staff. Neither there are any proper plans formulated for Education sector in Nepal.

Dr Bhattarai has given the Blind statement that has no logic. Most of Nepalese student goes to foreign country to have better higher education. There are less number of Colleges and Universities in Nepal that provides good quality of Education. Campus Placement opportunity is rarely seen at Nepalese institution.

Some of Private University provides good opportunity for Nepalese Student to have quality of education in their own country. Government should think reason behind the high fees structure in the private institution. There are many facilities in private institution and overall quality of education is good. The report can be seen in many examination results.  If SLC examination result is compared between Government and Private institution then passing rate is 50 % higher at private Institution.  Government should be blamed for providing poor quality of education at government institution. There are many loop holes in government institution like infrastructure, teacher competency, and quality of education and overall development of student. Thought there is free education till Class 10 at government institution for both genders but still parents seek their children to provide education at private institution because of the quality of education. Parents would do their best for children future.

Government should focus on the up gradation of Colleges and University. They should improve the Basic Level of Education till the higher standard education. Teachers at government schools rarely work better. Their mind is preoccupied that government job is the most secure job and usually teacher will be of same village. The Cross checking pattern should be implemented in the education sector where all the teacher quality of teaching should be benchmarked. The Feedback of teacher from Student and Guardian should be documented and submitted to the Central Education Committee at least once in a year. The Grade should be given to teacher and promotion should depend on the grade of teacher. The Campuses and University should be Graded on the quality of Education like A+, A, B+, B, C and D.

Politics interference is also one of the reasons not to have quality education at Government institution. Politics should be limited within Institution and should not have any relation with National Politics. It seems to have National political party's presence at college beginning from the first year. Students must join any one of party. They cannot be neutral. Result: Politics has made the division within students and thus quality of education had been degraded.

Closing of Private schools would impact bad at quality of education. Generation needs revolution and revolution can be brought in Nepal by providing good quality of education.  Knowledge is Power. If there is good education system in Nepal then Nepalese student would study in Nepal. This will help country budget utilized within country and create several employment opportunity. Education Tourism has vital importance in some of country. Country will generate revenue by providing good Education system. Singapore, India, USA, UK, Australia, Switzerland have many good institution which provides different types of course. Student will come for internship programs or research development. If there is good education system at Nepal then students from foreign country would come to pursue higher education.  Imagine if there is one good University that has intake of 800 students per year and total capacity is 4000 then many teachers, staff and village people would get benefit. This will create good employment opportunity and revenue generation for Nepal.

Up gradation of government institution should be done promptly by improving the infrastructure, teacher competency and quality of education. Private Institution should be encouraged to provide good quality of education. Today student are the tomorrow future of Country. If there is good education system in Nepal then our Country future will be bright.

 

 
Thanks and Regards
Ajay Kumar Yadav
ajay.aimsa@gmail.com
External Affairs & Spokesperson
AIMSA, Bangalore – India

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Couple of Months back, I was in Gaur (my hometown) Nepal, It was such a pleasure to meet my family and friends after a long time, I saw hopes in eyes of people around me which had gone missing for 15 years. They were of the belief that the biggest crisis for Nepal(Maoists Insurgency) was over but that was not to be the case. To their surprise still the security situation is not getting better.
I faced one of the toughest times in recent time, I had a plan to utilize my limited vacation meeting old pals so was planning to visit the capital City but unfortunately that remained a dream. Every alternate day, there was a strike, some kind of “Chakka Jam”. It has come as a complete shock to me, how people have started thinking? All of them think and treat themselves politically hyper –active. Everybody has an issue, a different approach about how the country should be run.its like nation has got too many leaders currently.
Democracy has been proved the best method of Governance across the Globe. Majority of the nations have adopted it and of course it is consistent and yielding. But again , democracy can be suicidal if not handled carefully, in today’s contest people interpret freedom according to their will and desire. The same understanding has given many of them a birth right for strikes!! People can burn anything anytime if something has not happened according to their expectation, there will be a “chakka jam” immediately. So that is how democracy is being nourished in Nepal. Some leaders call it as freedom but I am wondering if they do understand the consequences??
Today, schools , colleges , business places remain closed for almost 2-3 days in a week ultimately for no reasons. Have we ever thought what kind of culture we are developing ? The youth of nation has mastered the art of Tyre Burning, stone pelting, vandalizing National Assets in name of revolution. Once famous for her peace and beauty, Nepal is weeping today at her ugliest face.
People simply can’t believe if the Land of Mahatma Buddha has come to this state. Brotherhood, peace, harmony all look yesterday’s words, today we have nothing but hatredness , violence, chaos, strikes and of course Tire Burning! The height of intolerance has been reached. We are uncertain of any certainty. Are the strikes, stone pelting or vandalizing assets are the only answer to any problems?? Guys let’s think over it , can we do a better job ?

[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Nepal: Government should encourage Private University to attract Education Tourism

Nepal: Government should encourage Private University to attract Education Tourism

On 6^th November 2008; Maoist Government Finance Minister Dr. Baburam Bhattarai announced by 2010 all the private school and university should be closed and all of them should be within the Government control. This decision has hurt many intellectual Nepalese and put the question mark on Nepal's former rebel Maoists attitude on the development of country.

 As a responsible citizen; my first question comes "Is closing of private school and university shows any positive path for Country?" According to the Ministry of Education, private schools account for nearly one-third of the country's 41,000 schools. If private institutions are supposed to be closed then what will happen about the quality of education and employment opportunity for teachers and staff. There has been no alternative solution given by Maoist government till now for employment opportunity to teachers and staff. Neither there are any proper plans formulated for Education sector in Nepal.

Dr Bhattarai has given the Blind statement that has no logic. Most of Nepalese student goes to foreign country to have better higher education. There are less number of Colleges and Universities in Nepal that provides good quality of Education. Campus Placement opportunity is rarely seen at Nepalese institution.

Some of Private University provides good opportunity for Nepalese Student to have quality of education in their own country. Government should think reason behind the high fees structure in the private institution. There are many facilities in private institution and overall quality of education is good. The report can be seen in many examination results.  If SLC examination result is compared between Government and Private institution then passing rate is 50 % higher at private Institution.  Government should be blamed for providing poor quality of education at government institution. There are many loop holes in government institution like infrastructure, teacher competency, and quality of education and overall development of student. Thought there is free education till Class 10 at government institution for both genders but still parents seek their children to provide education at private institution because of the quality of education. Parents would do their best for children future.

Government should focus on the up gradation of Colleges and University. They should improve the Basic Level of Education till the higher standard education. Teachers at government schools rarely work better. Their mind is preoccupied that government job is the most secure job and usually teacher will be of same village. The Cross checking pattern should be implemented in the education sector where all the teacher quality of teaching should be benchmarked. The Feedback of teacher from Student and Guardian should be documented and submitted to the Central Education Committee at least once in a year. The Grade should be given to teacher and promotion should depend on the grade of teacher. The Campuses and University should be Graded on the quality of Education like A+, A, B+, B, C and D.

Politics interference is also one of the reasons not to have quality education at Government institution. Politics should be limited within Institution and should not have any relation with National Politics. It seems to have National political party's presence at college beginning from the first year. Students must join any one of party. They cannot be neutral. Result: Politics has made the division within students and thus quality of education had been degraded.

Closing of Private schools would impact bad at quality of education. Generation needs revolution and revolution can be brought in Nepal by providing good quality of education.  Knowledge is Power. If there is good education system in Nepal then Nepalese student would study in Nepal. This will help country budget utilized within country and create several employment opportunity. Education Tourism has vital importance in some of country. Country will generate revenue by providing good Education system. Singapore, India, USA, UK, Australia, Switzerland have many good institution which provides different types of course. Student will come for internship programs or research development. If there is good education system at Nepal then students from foreign country would come to pursue higher education.  Imagine if there is one good University that has intake of 800 students per year and total capacity is 4000 then many teachers, staff and village people would get benefit. This will create good employment opportunity and revenue generation for Nepal.

Up gradation of government institution should be done promptly by improving the infrastructure, teacher competency and quality of education. Private Institution should be encouraged to provide good quality of education. Today student are the tomorrow future of Country. If there is good education system in Nepal then our Country future will be bright.

 

 
Thanks and Regards
Ajay Kumar Yadav
ajay.aimsa@gmail.com
External Affairs & Spokesperson
AIMSA, Bangalore – India

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: OBC-The federation of Other Backward Classes

Dear Members,
               I agree with this line "Reservation should be in terms of economic conditions of Family not in terms of caste" if reservation will be on caste basis then it will goes to only rich people who have money and political power, then how about for the poor family who wants to see their child to be educated but, they can't afford for that. It is not matter only about education but, lots of things are there, then the world would be remain same as it was "Jis ki lathi uski bhais"

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Ajay Yadav <ajay.aimsa@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All

I would like to says one thing with new emerging topic "Other Backward Classes (OBC)" and forming a national interest discussion in Nepal that THIS IS AGAIN THE NEW STRATEGY WHICH THE RULING CLASS has thought to DIVIDE THE MADHESI WITHIN THEMSELVES AGAIN.

Firstly they divide "THARUS" from Madhesi and now their objective is to divide "Madhesi" among themselves with many castes.
We all people seriously need to think in the caste factor in our society.

Now we are in the 21st century and in this century it is really bad to see that some people still support the Caste division system in nepal.

We are outside of Nepal and we better know the world.

I agreed with bal krishna jhaji that if OBC is coming then who is a madhesi?.

Guys try to understand that this is new strategy of ruling class people to divide madhesi within themselves.

I think being an intellectual no one should support the Caste division system in Nepal because if we support this then we
can not go forward. we will go Backward again and again and at last their wont be changes in the society.

THere is another method to help the people in terms of their support.

Reservation would be their in terms of economic conditions of Family.

GOvernment should make the database of people and have the reservation in terms of Family annual income less than certain amount. We all people should help each other if they have income less than certain amount.

Society would not see the change when caste reservation system would be implemented and good econonmic conditon of family gets benefitted with their caste Tag.

Soceity would be changed only when family with bad economic condtions are really benefitted irrespective of caste factor.
People should help each other with thier humanisim rules not by Caste factor.

As i think this is the Cancer of our society. And Madhesi development cannot be done if this caste factor is implemented.

Guys share your ideas in this topic.

So we need to DO IT NOW!!!

Thanks and Regards
Ajay Kumar Yadav
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On 11/14/08, Balkrishna <balkrishnajha@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Nawal ji,

 

Completely agreed. The prime concern for us as madhesi, at present should be to define madhesi.  

 

Best,

Bal Krishna

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Nawal Yadav <yadav_nawal@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear All
We should be concerned about the issues are coming to detach one madhesi from other. The consitution writing process is yet to start. None of the largest parties have clearly stated their views about how they want to address the concern of madhesi about restructuring of states, recruitment of madhesi in army, security and  other organ of the government. The most important thing is that who is madhesi is yet to be fomally defined. At this stage there is a need to be united until we get our rights secured as madhesi which is not so easy. Unless the new constitution secures the right of madhesi, our fate remain uncertain. Therefore, this is the time to unite ourselves rather than divide ourselves on various background.  So we should be careful with the new ideas which will divide us and weaken our strength and that will ultimately benefit to the rulers.
 
Thanks
Nawal  

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:10:11 +0545
From: balkrishnajha@gmail.com
To: madhesh-think-tank@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OBC-The federation of Other Backward Classes

Hello,

We should first try to find out from where, all of a sudden, the OBC thing emerged. In a progressive manner, the integral elements of the madhesi society is being taken out. First the Tharus, then Musalmans, then Dalits, then OBC. Now, who is a madhesi? Is the madhesi just the remaining Yadavs, Rajputs, Kayasthas and Brahmins?

If we endorse the OBCs, we acknowledge that they are a separate identity. The non-madhesi state will oblige these groups and might make them stand against the remaining madhesis. And one would soon hear the Avadhis raising their own demands, the maithils claiming to be different and Bhojpuris pushing for their own set of demands for recognition.

Therefore, on one hand, we should be sympathetic to the underpriviliged in our own society, and act to push for whoever that have been discriminated by our own madhesi society. And on the other, we should not let the OBCs or others feel that they are another separate identity as Tharus or Dalits. Its time, we correct the double standards of our society, if we are to prosper as a dignified madhesi.

Best,

Bal Krishna Jha

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:39 AM, satendra shah <satendrashah@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All

 

The federation of Other Backward Classes (OBC) warned of further protests until their demands are met. The federation represents 31 backward castes/communities such as Kuswaha, Kalwar, Hajam and Musalman, have demanded the government include OBCs in the list of indigenous groups and ethnic nationalities in the constitution and give them equal rights.

 

See the news link :http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/nov/nov10/news09.php

 

The constitution writing process will start from coming Sunday (Nov 16) as the long awaited CA regulations are set to be endorsed on Friday.

 

What do you think guys ? Should we support them ?

 

Thanks
Satendra shah

General Secretary-ANTA USA

www.terai.org

 

 

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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Madhesi: Either Now or Never ??

Hello dear members,

In fact, Ram Manohar ji's views are eye opener at least for me always.
However, I beg to interpret his message in a different note:

There is never any perfect person, or perfect organization, and
perfect time, and hence we should not 'expect' a perfect output. The
point is, we should be cautious on various things as suggested by
Manohar ji, however, we may start with the umbrella organization
concept. There might be failures to achieve result as desired, but we
can try again to re-do it; with 'learned' knowledge through failure.
Say for example, the current civilization was not like this as it is.
It has been refined again and again with rise and falls of
civilization at various times.

Therefore, my point is to start, with a strong foundation and faith.
Lets not stop the wind which is bound to move leaves, at least not the
tree...

Best,

Bal Krishna

On 11/20/08, ψ Ŝhree <shreenarayanjha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Impressive Article Ram Manohar Ji.
>
> Regards,
> SHREE
>
> On Nov 18, 5:38 am, Ram Manohar <rammanohar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> There has been a lot of heat generating around the topic "Building a
>> Global Organization". Though the concept itself is not new, Being
>> member of Madhesi group, I am really excited to see so much of energy
>> pouring into this emotional issue.
>>
>> Since the messages are flowing into public domain, so I may some of
>> the quotes from the public sources. Please don't take it personal.
>> This is my hearty request.
>>
>> Now starting with the topic. "Either Now or Never". Are we into some
>> fast track race, where Win/Loss is the outcome? If not winning this
>> time, does it mean, people are lost forever. The madhesi aspiration
>> and the movement is journey, and it should be taken like that, and it
>> shouldn't be turned into emotional punch line like "Either Now or
>> Never". The punch line suggest as if, if you are not part of this
>> "Building a Global Organization" drive, then you are incompetent, and
>> the world is becoming black from tomorrow. The punch line seems to be
>> more like "Political".
>>
>> What do you mean by Building Organization? I see, the organization is
>> already in place. One form of realization of this organization is say
>> "Google group" having people from different locations culminating at a
>> point. So, what do you people mean when you say "Building a Global
>> Organization". Do you want to build an apartment in each country or
>> have a liaison seating with office setup.
>>
>> If some have idea of formal setup and proper naming for organization,
>> and keeping Branding in back of mind, then in this context, I will
>> want to emphasize, we should learn from our/yours own associated
>> organization. Just try to get some assessment, how much the
>> organization has achieved, and how much more can be, given its
>> potential.
>>
>> The inherent problem in these organizations are fractionalize, people
>> motivation, resource collection, and identifying the proper working
>> grounds, and optimum utilization. And a very important issue, which
>> can badly impact the very foundation of organization, is "Presence of
>> opportunist" inside group. I know, these problems may not be new, and
>> may be common to any organization from our land. But, just being
>> "Madhesi" doesn't guarantee immunity to these issues. As well as I
>> want to add, the common scenario is, these types of problems have
>> never helped organization to achieve the desired goals.
>>
>> I don't want to restrict someone enthusiasm for "Madhesi Cause". But I
>> want to caution, let's act more like Common man, rather than chatter
>> box politician. Gathering Madhesis is good idea, but what to do with
>> that? If publishing few press releases (with madhesi logo on it) is
>> all that is intended, it will not interest common people. Rather first
>> decide some tangible plans, say building school, hospital or providing
>> scholarship to underprivileged etc, than "Build a Global Organization"
>> to implement it. And In this process, let every one come with good
>> plan, and every time "Build a Global Organization" to implement it".
>> We don't want a single "Global Organization", rather many such "Global
>> Organization" with many good tangible plans, which will improve the
>> quality of life on ground zero.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ram Manohar
> >
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Re: Madhesi: Either Now or Never ??

Hi,

Impressive Article Ram Manohar Ji.

Regards,
SHREE

On Nov 18, 5:38 am, Ram Manohar <rammanohar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> There has been a lot of heat generating around the topic "Building a
> Global Organization". Though the concept itself is not new, Being
> member of Madhesi group, I am really excited to see so much of energy
> pouring into this emotional issue.
>
> Since the messages are flowing into public domain, so I may some of
> the quotes from the public sources. Please don't take it personal.
> This is my hearty request.
>
> Now starting with the topic. "Either Now or Never". Are we into some
> fast track race, where Win/Loss is the outcome? If not winning this
> time, does it mean, people are lost forever. The madhesi aspiration
> and the movement is journey, and it should be taken like that, and it
> shouldn't be turned into emotional punch line like "Either Now or
> Never". The punch line suggest as if, if you are not part of this
> "Building a Global Organization" drive, then you are incompetent, and
> the world is becoming black from tomorrow. The punch line seems to be
> more like "Political".
>
> What do you mean by Building Organization? I see, the organization is
> already in place. One form of realization of this organization is say
> "Google group" having people from different locations culminating at a
> point. So, what do you people mean when you say "Building a Global
> Organization". Do you want to build an apartment in each country or
> have a liaison seating with office setup.
>
> If some have idea of formal setup and proper naming for organization,
> and keeping Branding in back of mind, then in this context, I will
> want to emphasize, we should learn from our/yours own associated
> organization. Just try to get some assessment, how much the
> organization has achieved, and how much more can be, given its
> potential.
>
> The inherent problem in these organizations are fractionalize, people
> motivation, resource collection, and identifying the proper working
> grounds, and optimum utilization. And a very important issue, which
> can badly impact the very foundation of organization, is "Presence of
> opportunist" inside group. I know, these problems may not be new, and
> may be common to any organization from our land. But, just being
> "Madhesi" doesn't guarantee immunity to these issues. As well as I
> want to add, the common scenario is, these types of problems have
> never helped organization to achieve the desired goals.
>
> I don't want to restrict someone enthusiasm for "Madhesi Cause". But I
> want to caution, let's act more like Common man, rather than chatter
> box politician. Gathering Madhesis is good idea, but what to do with
> that? If publishing few press releases (with madhesi logo on it) is
> all that is intended, it will not interest common people. Rather first
> decide some tangible plans, say building school, hospital or providing
> scholarship to underprivileged etc, than "Build a Global Organization"
> to implement it. And In this process, let every one come with good
> plan, and every time "Build a Global Organization" to implement it".
> We don't want a single "Global Organization", rather many such "Global
> Organization" with many good tangible plans, which will improve the
> quality of life on ground zero.
>
> Thanks,
> Ram Manohar
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