Hi All
I would like to says one thing with new emerging topic "Other Backward Classes (OBC)" and forming a national interest discussion in Nepal that THIS IS AGAIN THE NEW STRATEGY WHICH THE RULING CLASS has thought to DIVIDE THE MADHESI WITHIN THEMSELVES AGAIN.
Firstly they divide "THARUS" from Madhesi and now their objective is to divide "Madhesi" among themselves with many castes.
We all people seriously need to think in the caste factor in our society.
Now we are in the 21st century and in this century it is really bad to see that some people still support the Caste division system in nepal.
We are outside of Nepal and we better know the world.
I agreed with bal krishna jhaji that if OBC is coming then who is a madhesi?.
Guys try to understand that this is new strategy of ruling class people to divide madhesi within themselves.
I think being an intellectual no one should support the Caste division system in Nepal because if we support this then we
can not go forward. we will go Backward again and again and at last their wont be changes in the society.
THere is another method to help the people in terms of their support.
Reservation would be their in terms of economic conditions of Family.
GOvernment should make the database of people and have the reservation in terms of Family annual income less than certain amount. We all people should help each other if they have income less than certain amount.
Society would not see the change when caste reservation system would be implemented and good econonmic conditon of family gets benefitted with their caste Tag.
Soceity would be changed only when family with bad economic condtions are really benefitted irrespective of caste factor.
People should help each other with thier humanisim rules not by Caste factor.
As i think this is the Cancer of our society. And Madhesi development cannot be done if this caste factor is implemented.
Guys share your ideas in this topic.
So we need to DO IT NOW!!!
Ajay Kumar Yadav
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Dear Nawal ji,
Completely agreed. The prime concern for us as madhesi, at present should be to define madhesi.
Best,Bal Krishna
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Nawal Yadav <yadav_nawal@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear All
We should be concerned about the issues are coming to detach one madhesi from other. The consitution writing process is yet to start. None of the largest parties have clearly stated their views about how they want to address the concern of madhesi about restructuring of states, recruitment of madhesi in army, security and other organ of the government. The most important thing is that who is madhesi is yet to be fomally defined. At this stage there is a need to be united until we get our rights secured as madhesi which is not so easy. Unless the new constitution secures the right of madhesi, our fate remain uncertain. Therefore, this is the time to unite ourselves rather than divide ourselves on various background. So we should be careful with the new ideas which will divide us and weaken our strength and that will ultimately benefit to the rulers.
Thanks
Nawal
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:10:11 +0545
From: balkrishnajha@gmail.com
To: madhesh-think-tank@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OBC-The federation of Other Backward Classes
Hello,
We should first try to find out from where, all of a sudden, the OBC thing emerged. In a progressive manner, the integral elements of the madhesi society is being taken out. First the Tharus, then Musalmans, then Dalits, then OBC. Now, who is a madhesi? Is the madhesi just the remaining Yadavs, Rajputs, Kayasthas and Brahmins?
If we endorse the OBCs, we acknowledge that they are a separate identity. The non-madhesi state will oblige these groups and might make them stand against the remaining madhesis. And one would soon hear the Avadhis raising their own demands, the maithils claiming to be different and Bhojpuris pushing for their own set of demands for recognition.
Therefore, on one hand, we should be sympathetic to the underpriviliged in our own society, and act to push for whoever that have been discriminated by our own madhesi society. And on the other, we should not let the OBCs or others feel that they are another separate identity as Tharus or Dalits. Its time, we correct the double standards of our society, if we are to prosper as a dignified madhesi.
Best,
Bal Krishna Jha
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:39 AM, satendra shah <satendrashah@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi AllThe federation of Other Backward Classes (OBC) warned of further protests until their demands are met. The federation represents 31 backward castes/communities such as Kuswaha, Kalwar, Hajam and Musalman, have demanded the government include OBCs in the list of indigenous groups and ethnic nationalities in the constitution and give them equal rights.See the news link :http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/nov/nov10/news09.phpThe constitution writing process will start from coming Sunday (Nov 16) as the long awaited CA regulations are set to be endorsed on Friday.What do you think guys ? Should we support them ?Thanks
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[AIMSA "Unity in Diversity"] Other Backward Caste
Other Backward Caste (OBC) is this division within Society by giving another angle of game for dirty politics???
Friends we have seen the lots of changes in our country in the short span of time. There was the time when Nepal seems to have its own unique culture tradition and peaceful country in the world. We all used to be proud of our culture, traditional and peacefulness in the country. We used to hear that in neighboring country like India, china, Bangladesh, Pakistan has lot of conflict and war within themselves.
But in the short span of time by 2001 A.D; Nepal has been in the dalmatic situation where all the problem starts side by side by giving one after another politics game of opportunity for dirty politicians. In realistic none of the politician wants to see the country to have the good future and work for welfare of society.
Now the OBC topic seems to have great interest for the politician in our country. OBC is another strategy for the politician to make the division within the society. This type of division gives the politician again another chance to play the Vote Bank Politics in our society. They want to divide the society in different sects by caste and religion and rule again by making all the people fool. They want to create the problem in society.
In today society I, you and we cannot say that all the OBC are backward in terms of wealth and all the Brahmins of society are good in wealth. This equation cannot be well formulated and proved since we all know that god has given variation within own sibling also. There is variation within the same caste and within the same family in terms of wealth, knowledge banks etc.
As the Citizen responsibility and to have good future of our country I would support if the Reservation would be given in terms of Family Economic Conditions not in terms of Caste and religion. Today we are living in the 21st Century where the world has seen change. Change is everywhere. But only those Change should be accepted which would lead all of us to move forward and have better future for our coming generation. There should be reservation based on the Family Annual income or certain benchmarking criteria should be formulated which would give the equal opportunity for all the Nepalese. Government should make the database of people and give certain scholarship program only to those students whose family economic condition is poor. The objective is to have the growth of society irrespective of Caste. I have seen some of really good family economic condition children studying in the scholarship program only because of Caste tag benefit. Society won't see any change if only those people get chance of everything that really have self capacity to do. To have change in society we need to give chance to that person who really needs help. As a responsible citizen we can only help person and let them to grow if they have right intention to grow.
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